510 thoughts on “Overpriced Android Tablet on DealFind from Fabuless Products”

1. I just receive mine today. The wifi is not working. i feel like I’m going to smash it, but then I thought I bought it for $85 plu $11 tax.

2. Dawn,

   As far as I know, credit card charge back is one of the last things any business may want. Financial institution may also start an investigation, and for sure will put a mark that there are problems with the business which may definitely affect them in the future.

   Thanks,
   Trueler

3. They’ve asked me to give them 2 weeks (next Friday) and if I don’t get it to call them not the credit card company. I “thought” I heard her say they get charged if you go through the credit card company. Is this correct? Does anyone know?

4. I will never order from Deal Find again. They are justvas unethical as fabuless products for running this deal not once or twice but at least three times. People still havent received their tablets from first run.

5. I purchased one of the vouchers (that cannot be used until Feb 5th).

   Thnkfully, I found this website and also did further research. Strange that you can find no favourable comments on Fabuless or Deal Find but plenty of negative.

   I think most people were very aware that they weren’t buying a top grade tablet but are pissed because they feel scammed.

   I contacted Deal Find by email two days ago and they contacted me by phone today saying they would return purchase price to my credit card. i also got a confirmation email stating the same.

   I feel that I had a lucky reprieve and it has not put me off searching for good deals. I will now be more wary and do far more research first. Thanks for useful info and tips.

   I would like to hear if anyone has received one of these tablets and is pleased with it. i have been unable to find anyone so far.

6. Dealhunter,

   I think people are buying this “deal” because they can’t even imagine that so “reputable” and popular daily deal website like DealFind which was featured by mass media can let them down. They are not idiots, DealFind make them to appear in this way…

   Trueler

7. Thanks Lloyd. Taking into account other wrong information which DealFind provides, nobody should rely on a positive resolution after 30 days in case of any problems with the product. They just say it in order to sell more “deals”. Even before 30 days pass, if customer already submitted voucher for redemption, I doubt that DealFind will keep their “promise” and refund (if customer figure out that it was a scam)…

   By “wrong information” I mean, for example, their claim that they are screening potential merchants. How did they screen Fabuless Products? It takes less than 5 minutes to understand that they violate Consumer Protection Act:

   http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_statutes_02c30_e.htm#BK17

   14. (1) It is an unfair practice for a person to make a false, misleading or deceptive representation

   Examples of false, misleading or deceptive representations

   (2) Without limiting the generality of what constitutes a false, misleading or deceptive representation, the following are included as false, misleading or deceptive representations:
   …
   11. A representation that a specific price advantage exists, if it does not.
   …

   DealFind and Fabuless Products advertize $314 price advantage which does not exist at all. This product is available on the market for about $80 with Express shipping and brokerage fees included:

   http://www.aliexpress.com/store/100099/210958304-436125703/2012-shenzhen-android-2-3-Tablet-7-inch-Infotmic-superpad-i7-Camera-WiFi-G-sensor-4GB.html

   http://www.amazon.com/Knightpad-2-3-Resistive-Touchscreen-capactiy/dp/B006JWRKQA

   In two months (when it will be received from Fabuless Products) it will be even cheaper.

   Moreover, DealFind is aware of this, but continue to run the deal! It means that they completely ignore screening process even when customers provide information to them.

   It’s not the first case. Some time ago it was a deal for 32GB memory cards:

   http://trueler.com/2011/11/20/fake-memory-card-xsv-360-dealfind-scam/

   When deal was running, DealFind was aware that the merchant was going to send fake 8GB cards instead of 32GB cards with Toshiba chip, but they continued to run the deal and sold thousands of them…

   Thanks,
   Trueler

8. Wow, up to 5000+ idiots now. Amazing. There really should be an “Idiots Guide to Groupbuys”.

9. Here is a copy of another very interesting dialog between a dissatisfied customer and Dealfind…

   Tony – Winnipeg
   31-Jan-2012 2:07pm (EST)

   Zuzanna….

   when you say “30 days and we’ll return your purchase”…. do you mean from the time we actually receive the product? or from the time we placed the order?…. and….. will Dealfind cover the cost to ship the product back?… I hope you answer this because it seems to weigh heavy on a lot of your customers on this thread.

   Zuzanna (Dealfind Admin)
   31-Jan-2012 2:15pm (EST)

   Hi Tony,

   Thanks for your post!

   The 30 day money back guarantee is from the day you purchase the voucher. After the 30 days, we do look at every single situation on an individual, case by case basis. Unfortunately, Dealfind will be unable to assume any costs regarding return shipping, however, we will be more than happy to assist you in the process :)

   Take care and happy Dealfinding!

   Zuzanna
   Customer Satisfaction Expert
   Dealfind

   Tony – Winnipeg
   31-Jan-2012 2:19pm (EST)

   I am very unhappy with this policy.

   First of all, the merchant has total control as to how long they will take before we get the product!…what if it takes 33 days before we get the tablet…then that means Dealfind has every right “not” to honour money back guarantee?

   secondly… Dealfind customers are on the hook for paying their own shipping costs?….that is bogus!… the shipping costs could be worth more than the piece of junk!… VERY DISPLEASED….

   Zuzanna (Dealfind Admin)
   31-Jan-2012 2:23pm (EST)

   Hi Tony,

   Thanks for your post!

   After the 30 days, we do look at every single situation on an individual, case by case basis. Please call us at 1-855-631-6368 or visit our Contact Us Page at http://www.dealfind.com/contact-us.php and fill in a request form so that we may better assist you.

   Take care and happy Dealfinding!

   Zuzanna
   Customer Satisfaction Expert
   Dealfind

   Having read this dialog, no one in their right mind should ever want to deal with such companies as Dealfind or Fabuless. It should be clear that these companies are based on little more than fraud and deceit. In other words, they are simply in the business of taking advantage of those who unfortunately are led to believe that they are getting something that they are clearly not, and on others who may not know exactly what to do if and when something goes wrong. As a result, more often than not, these customers do get scammed…they lose their money with nothing of value to show for it.

10. I fell for this scam without doing my research yesterday morning, and bought vouchers for 2 of the tablets. By the evening, I had a bad feeling about the whole thing and did my research only to stumble upon this website. I called DealFind, and asked for a refund because I realized that so many people were unhappy with Fabuless and their product (or lack thereof) from the previous deal in December, and they agreed to reverse the charges with no other questions asked, but said it may take 10 business days for the charges to be reversed with Visa. After all of the headaches people on here have gone through, I hope the charges are indeed reversed, and this really IS over…

11. ugh that response pissed me off so much.

12. Here is a typical complaint posted on Dealfind and the response to it…

    Sonia – Mississauga
    31-Jan-2012 8:43am (MST)

    Finally got my tablet yesterday from the December deal… funny you have a 30 days return policy and my product arrived 33 days after I purchased it (3 days too late to return it), the product doesn’t meet my expectations. Honestly this product is not worth the $85, no quality at all but never mind that… it doesn’t even work properly, it doesn’t make any sounds, not with speakers or anything else. How can I have it changed if not returned? Please advise, is there any warranty that comes with it? and how can I activate it. Thank you.

    Zuzanna (Dealfind Admin)
    31-Jan-2012 8:47am (MST)

    Hello Sonia!

    Thanks for your post!

    We apologize that you are not satisfied with your product. Please remember that all purchases made on Dealfind are backed by the Dealfind Promise: Nothing is more important to us than ensuring all of our customers are happy. If you feel disappointed with any­thing you bought from Dealfind, let us know within 30 days and we’ll return your purchase. After the 30 days, we do look at every single situation on an individual, case by case basis. Please call us at 1-855-631-6368 or visit our Contact Us Page at http://www.dealfind.com/contact-us.php and fill in a request form so that we may better assist you.

    Take care and happy Dealfinding!

    Zuzanna
    Customer Satisfaction Expert
    Dealfind

13. Thanks for your input and info Trueler, I was about tho copy and paste their statements to you as it is very obvious that they don’t do research!
    Unbelievable!!!!
    Sue

14. @ Trueler

    FabuLess and CoolDroids are just 2 of many such companies. There may or may not be a connection between any of them. Essentially these companies are little more than 1 or 2 person operations, which are in the drop shipping business.

    What these companies normally do is affiliate themselves with so-called “deal” places such as Dealfind which sadly enough have the ability to generate huge sales volumes for them, based on deceptive product claims, filtering of any bad comments, etc.

    After the deal closes, these companies then provide the customer lists to their China counterparts which is turn are supposed to drop ship the ordered products directly to the customers. In other words, the items will come from China and not from the USA or Canada as we may be led to believe.

    The problems are multi-fold. Once they have your money, their shipping time estimates and other claims such as warranty, go out the window. Rarely will an order ever be received in less than 1 month regardless of claims to the contrary, and rarely will the item every be as advertised or expected.

    Products such as this $85 Tablet is not worth a penny more than the $85 asking price, if that. Such products are manufactured in the cheapest possible way. There is no warranty and no support on them, regardless of claims to the contrary. Also they are NOT true Android tablets. The software used is simply a hacked version (not licensed) with only some parts of it actually working.

    In any event, getting a refund is not as easy as they make it sound. Even when a refund is possible through such places as Dealfind, you will first have to send the Tablet (item) back to China, and provide proof of having done so. This will mean shipping the item back with tracking and proof of delivery to China. This will cost you close to 40-50% of what you pay for the tablet in the first place…money which will not be refunded.

    So people have a choice…keep the crappy unit for the $85 paid for it, or send it back and lose $30-40 on the deal for return shipping costs that will not be refunded…even if you are lucky enough to get a refund of your original amount.

    Sadly, this is how such companies operate. They scam people out of their hard earned money, knowing very well that most people, even though very unhappy with their purchase, will do little if anything about it. Such companies, and those who support them, should be stopped.

15. I think I need to clarify one thing. There are the following posts on DealFind discussion board about this deal which is currently running:

    http://www.dealfind.com/discuss.php?DiscussionID=13199

    Zuzanna (Dealfind Admin)
    30-Jan-2012 4:58pm (NST)
    “Please refer to JJ’s comment today at 1:07pm (NST)! As much as we monitor our boards, http://trueler.com does the same.”

    Zuzanna (Dealfind Admin)
    31-Jan-2012 11:30am (NST)
    “@ Steph and Sue: Please refer to JJ’s comment yesterday at 1:07pm (NST)! As much as we monitor our boards, http://trueler.com does the same.”

    It seems like Zuzanna (Dealfind Admin) did not even bother to check, because all comments of JJ (Jason Jay here) are in place. Every single comment is hold in a moderation queue here in order to avoid spam. Positive and negative ones. Sorry for delays in approving comments.

    Basically Zuzanna (Dealfind Admin) posted and continue to post incorrect information about trueler.com on DealFind discussion board. Would you trust all other statements she makes about promises, shipment status, product information, etc…?

    Thanks,
    Trueler

16. Thanks for the research Trueler. They sure have the same M.O.

17. Hi Elizabeth,

    Some research I’ve done recently showed that most likely CoolDroids and FabuLess are different scammers. However they both are…

    Thanks,
    Trueler

18. I fell for the same scam with TeamBuy and CoolDroids. I believe that CoolDroids and FabuLess are one and the same scammers because of the similarities of my issues and the ones here. I have to say TeamBuy was very good at refunding my money though. Dealfind should be doing the same! I’ve also placed a dispute with Paypal for the extra charges. I find it hard to believe that Dealfind is actually running this again!

19. @ Carolyn

    The best thing you can do to get your money back, is to contact your credit card provider, and do a chargeback due to item not being received. Dealfind and Fabuless Products are obviously 2 very deceptive and fraudulent companies which should be stopped.

    @ Trueler

    Chargebacks can be done with “most” prepaid MasterCard or Visa Cards just as they are done with any regular credit card. There are however some exceptions. Some of the prepaid Visa and American Express Gift cards that you can purchase at various grocery stores, drug stores, etc. cannot be reloaded. A chargeback (or refund) cannot be done with a card that cannot be reloaded.

20. when you ask a question they’ll snap a pre written answer back at you and then when they actually go back and read the post they delete ‘anything negative’

21. I bought one of these on Dealfind from FabuLess on December 26th and have never YET gotten mine. All they give me are excuses. Now that the 30 days has passed, there’s a very good chance that Dealfind WILL NOT refund my money.

    I left a number of comments on the Dealfind sites to try and warn people NOT to buy this current deal but they kept on deleting them so it didnt do much good.

    I am looking for the right law enforcement agency in Ontario to contact to see if there’s any legal action we can take.

22. Yes, there are some negative reviews about this tablet, as well as some positive ones. But in all fairness, a lot of the negative ones are posted by those expecting to get a $400 tablet for $100 or less. That is simply not going to happen, which is my biggest gripe with Fabuless and Dealfind. These companies are obviously trying to convince the gullible that they are going to get a $400 tablet for just $85, rather than simply offering the unit as a $85 unit, with no claim as to it having a much higher value.

    Notice on Amazon http://amzn.to/yQCELy that there are many identical as well as similar units for sale in the $60 to well over $100 range, but virtually none of them claim that they have a value more than the asking price. Also negative reviews are permitted as well as the positive ones, unlike Dealfind’s deceptive policy of removing any negative comments about the product or company. Customers should have all the true facts regarding an item, and not have them filtered so as to falsely present a product to be something vastly better (higher value) than it really is. So who would you rather trust? My vote is for Amazon.

    For those who have ordered product more than 30 days ago, and have not yet received it, regardless of where is was ordered from, should immediately contact their credit card company for a chargeback.

23. Hi Amanda,

    I guess it is possible to get refunds on prepaid credit cards as well. Is anyone aware of the opposite?

    Write/call to DealFind and request a refund for this deal as many people are doing now.

    Thanks,
    Trueler

24. Hi, I to just bought this deal myself yesterday..bought two..I paid with a pre paid credit card as I didn’t want to use my own where I have never bought anything from dealfind before..How do I put a stop to this?? please comment to my email as well as I might have trouble finding my post on here..thanks..

25. The DealFind.com censor seems to be asleep tonight, so I’ve had a message re this scam up on their discussion board (just below their ad for the Google Android tablet) for a couple of hours instead of the usual 5 minutes they last before deletion. We all might try posting to their site after hours (8 p.m.).

    To get around their posting rules (questions only, no complaints) try using a question about the Android tablet offer, which is still being promoted by Dealfind. Ex: I’ve heard that a lot of people who’ve ordered this product from DealFind never received it. How can we be sure that after we send our money we’ll receive the product?

    The Facebook group and Twitter and especially Trueler’s site are really good resources. Let’s stay in touch so that all of us will come out of this with a lesson learned but not victimized.

26. Dude: Thank you for setting up the Facebook group! I’ve sent my request to be a member, and I hope lots of us post there.

    I’d also like to invite you and anyone else who is interested to go to Twitter and type #DealFindScam into the search box. It’s just getting started, but it may be another means to communicate since DealFind censors everything they don’t want their potential customers (victims) to hear.

27. I’ve set up a facebook group if anyone is interested in getting the message out on facebook.

    http://www.facebook.com/groups/298162073566140/

28. Salander,

    Thanks for your interest :) We do appreciate voluntary help with investigations and research. We don’t have any paid positions yet…

    Thanks,
    Trueler

29. Hi SueQ,

    In this “deal” there is at least an obvious violation of Consumer Protection Act. I think the Ministry of Consumer Services is the best place to start complaint process with:

    http://www.sse.gov.on.ca/mcs/en/Pages/Consumer_Protection_Branch.aspx

    CoolDroids and Fabuless Products share the same picture of the product (see in this post) which seems like appear only on these two websites. Not really a proof…

    I remember there were serious problems with deals from CoolDroids. BBB also has something about them:
    http://www.bbb.org/mbc/business-reviews/home-electronics/cooldroidscom-in-west-vancouver-bc-1260891

    Thanks,
    Trueler

30. Hi Scott,

    I’m aware of the following problems with Laser Hair removal deals (maybe not exactly the deal you purchased):
    – Hard time to book appointments
    – You go there several times, but no effect. Then they ask to purchase one additional session to get effect, then one more, and again…
    – Hidden fees
    – Business closed before you have a chance to use your voucher

    Thanks,
    Trueler

31. Jason,

    I’m not assuming this because you have nothing negative to say. It’s another information which let me think this way…

    I always welcome feedback from businesses explaining the situation, unless it is a shill.

    For some reason, we have not heard anyone from Fabuless Products or DealFind here, so they probably think that everything is OK with this post and discussion.

    Thanks,
    Trueler

32. Can anyone tell me if they had any problems with another deal from Dealfind regarding the purchase of Laser Hair removal that they just had a few weeks back? I’m wondering if you ran into any problems and if so what they were…was it with the Dealfind or with the vendor company itself or was the deal okay. bought it for my daughter and worried about any problems she might have when she goes to use it next month. thanks a bunch.

33. You can do all the research you like, but I can tell you that I am not an affiliate of Fabuless Products or DealFind. However, it is interesting to see how you automatically assume that just because I have nothing negative to say. I am simply speaking as a person looking on the outside in, and see that although things do look bad, consumers also do have to do their own due diligence, and not just purchase things blindly.

34. Jason Jay / J Holiday / Chelsea,

    Are you all three sure that you speak for different persons and not associated with the providers of this “fabuless” deal?

    Thanks,
    Trueler

35. I have been wanting to start up a site as of this one as I am tired of spending many hours dealing with the Merchants that DEALFIND SELLS DEALS FOR. I have had nothing but bad experiences with the vouchers I have purchase from them in the past 8 months. They need to be shut-down! Often these deals from companies end up being such a waste of time and a frustrating as all services I have purchased have gone back to dealfind for moneyback due to (2)NO SHOWS for each and every company. And in those circumstances, with a lot of negative comments from others they too resold deals from those Merchants again as in this case with Fabuless!

    I have learned you must research beforehand as there are more bad companies out there than good these days, and regarding this one saw the red flag by people complaints about non delivery of tablets.
    @ Dealhunter – I guess people assume that when purchasing these deals through Dealsites such as Dealfind(who use to have a good reputation) they assume these companies have already done there research/due diligence before they post these deals and offer a guarantee for money back! But I wouldn’t say they are good for spa deals either as they allow to many vouchers to be sold in which these Merchants can’t fulfill within a reasonable time frame(a year in some cases)!
    In the past, Dealfind was good, especially when it came to a refund but now you must watch out as they push for “Dealfind Dollars” instead of money back and if it is beyond the 30 day period, will only reimburse that way, so you have to purchase other subjectable deals from them.
    If we can get enough people together, we can put a stop on these companies from further fraudulent scams or misrepresentation of info product.

    Can someone post a complete list of where we should report these companies?
    Does anyone know if CoolDroids is affiliated with Fabuless?
    Visa did a chargeback on that fraudulent scam of a company so that is one way people can get there (non delivered product) money back.

    Thanks for info Trueler!

36. I also noticed my tablet was shipped to me from BCC Ottawa Inc which seems to be a drop shipper.

    Dealfind WILL refund you if you have proof the item was returned to Fabuless. But they cannot assure you the refund postage will be covered.

    This is FAR different from the answer I got from Chelsea at Fabuless as she outright refused a refund, would only reship the item once I returned the defective once and I was to be on the hook to pay postage for their error. I will be fighting Andrew the owner for my return postage once they have my return.

37. @ Eric,

    What Dealfind’s done here amounts to a scam and same with the other dealsites. You know why? It’s shady business practice to promote and pawn off a crappy product like this and then bail on your customers when disaster strikes.

    I’ve been inside Dealfind’s offices; it’s a rat race in there filled with hundreds of little mice doing their dirty work. You don’t think even a HANDFUL of them saw this product before hand and said, “geez, this product looks awful…we shouldn’t be selling this”.

    Of course not!! And you know why? Because Dealfind gets a nice cut from pawning this piece of crap to 4000+ idiots just by simply clicking the “Send” button on their email list. So yes, they should have an obligation to their database of subscribers.

38. Hi, YES you can reply on there FB Page and I encourage all of you to do so! When they first launched there page they posted info on how they are delight and concerned when it comes to customer service and mentioned that they have set-up a better customer service response system, Ha ha, what a joke and at that time I posted many messages on FB advising them that they don’t do there due diligence when selecting “Merchants” in which they choose to do deals for. I have never received any response back other than their default email email saying sorry for the inconvenience, or an actual phone caller request back from Management or someone of higher authority. This is when they responded that I should sent another email to their new and improved customer service option. I had sent many of my comments on their FB Page as they can’t delete what you have posted on their so I hope many take advantage of this option.

39. Wow! I cannot believe this one! I bought 3 of these for my kids, and they ask me every day if I’ve received it yet. How do I tell my kids that this is a scam??? I sent 3 emails to fabuless and dealfind, requesting delivery dates, and today, I requested a full refund. Dealfind offered me DEALFIND DOLLARS!! what a friggin joke!!! As if I will ever buy from them again. I bought another raw deal from them just 2 weeks ago for laser hair removal – and the same thing there too .. What do they want me to do with over $550 worth of Dealfind Dollars???? oh I am really pissed! Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences .. and I sure hope we all get our money back on these raw deals.

40. Before you all complain about DealFind “scamming” you.. Maybe you guys should have done your research first.

    As an avid Android fan, I know the difference between a good tablet and a bad one. This is obviously a bad one.

    Don’t expect to get a good Android Tablet that is running anything other then Android 3.0+. There are a few exceptions, the Viewsonic G-Tablet comes to mind. The only thing Dealfind is guilty of here is actually believing the Retail price for this tablet was $399.99. A tablet like this sells for much less then $100 at stores like TigerDirect, FactoryDirect, XS-Cargo.. etc. You can find them online for much less too.

    If this was the information given to Dealfind then FabuLESS is to blame, but maybe Dealfind themselves should of done better research on the tablet as well. When it comes to electronics, you all should know better then to just jump in and click buy. Lesson learned.

41. FYI , they have posted this SAME deal AGAIN on DEALFIND
    will that company ever learn..

    I am currently trying to get my money back…

    thanks Trueler for being around .. keep up the good work!

42. No way would I buy an ipad… lol… I guess ipads are great for sheeple, but the Samsung Galaxy tab 10.1 is a far better unit, without all the locked down operating system and apps that apple tries to force on you.

    Anyways… I got an email from fabuless today saying they got a complaint and would authorize the refund, but also said they had the unit to ship to me if I wanted to change my mind. Ya right…No thanks, refund the money please.

43. Dealfind came out with yet another deal yesterday, this time it is “2.3” somebody needs to stop them!

44. Did you know you can post on the FB wall of Dealfind?

45. wow, can i have a job researching for you? That would be my ideal job!

46. Looks like someone on kijiji selling same crap

    http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-phones-PDAs-ipods-7-inch-Tablet-PC-Closing-Sale-85-W0QQAdIdZ350529715

47. Wow 4000+ IDIOTS bought this deal.

    What is it with you people? You see a “DEAL” and you jump all over it without doing some research and then you’re “SURPRISED” when the product A) SUCKS, B) doesn’t show up at your door or C) ALL of the above.

    People, TRY AND use some common sense when buying from groupbuy sites. If you’ve never heard of the product or the company, chances are it’s a mom & pap shop so ask yourself, “can they realistically handle 4000 orders”? Probably not.

    You know who’s having a good laugh at this? Apple directors who are sitting at home counting their money now because they know after you had this shitty experience trying to buy crap products the only next logical step for you is to GO OUT AND BUY AN IPAD. You’ve just saved them from having to market to 4000+ IDIOTS.

48. @sylvia: I just called Fabuless… the number isn’t disconnected, just seems to be automated message telling people to e-mail instead of call. Why are you posting lies?

49. So I too was suckered into the Dec.26th 2011 Deal… still havent received my android and I tried calling Fabuless Products today again… and their phone line is now diconnected! ughhh

50. You need to know that your credit card company has policies in place for situations like these. When I didn’t receive my order and after numerous failed attempts at contacting the company, getting a tracking number that didn’t work (I think they just made one up to shut me up) I contacted Visa. I called Visa and they reversed the charge no problems. They said alot of people are unaware that we have online shopping protection policies in place for reasons like this. They do not find it acceptable to have to wait 30 days for an item and will reverse the charge, and all you have to do is deny the package at the door!!! Please be aware of these policies and protect yourself from scammers and online shopping!!!!! I made such a huge deal out of this that I actually shipped it to Toronto and dealfind gave me my money back!