The Butchers “Organic and Naturally raised meats shop” has sold over 15,000 coupons in Toronto for approximately $175 each worth of meat at the cost of $55. It is over $2.6 million dollars worth of meat. If we take an average price of the most selling meats by The Butchers as $30 per kilogram (chicken, ground beef, etc…), we get about 90 tons of “organic and naturally raised” meat. For a really small shop! Everyone can speculate about these numbers and conclude that it is not possible to meet this huge demand without dramatic decrease in quality of meats and service.
The Butchers shop has been featured by Webpiggy, Dealgetters, DealFind, Dealticker, TeamSave, BuyTopia daily deals websites (did I miss anyone?). There were a lot of complaints on service, products and prices at The Butchers after the major offer on DealFind. It turns to be a scam at some discussion forums. They simply can not handle all the customers. They significantly reduced working hours, assortment, quality, etc. The only thing they should care about now is to service all customers with already purchased coupons because The Butchers has real problems with it (actually vice versa – many customers have problems with The Butchers). But! What do they do instead?
They are offering another deal on WebPiggy again:
$100 for $400 worth of organic and naturally raised meat from The Butchers, inclusive of a $50 credit to the opening of Marlin’s Fish Shop. Don’t miss The Butchers 10th Anniversary, Deal of the Century!
It is running through the weekend (April 8 – 10) and 1600 already bought the deal. I think they just need more cash to purchase more meat from some cheap place. I don’t see another explanation.
Well.. There were only speculations before in this post.
Now Trueler provides real proofs of how “Organic and Naturally raised” the meat from The Butchers is and what it actually worth.
Most of the products purchased with one of the coupons at The Butchers in the beginning of April 2011 were of bad quality. I have prepared and described facts about sausages bought at The Butchers. They definitely do not worth $10.99/pound (or $24.40/kg). Probably $1.99/pound is a fair price for them (I’m not sure what is the exact percentage of starch and carrageenan they have added to the sausages).
Let’s see what “Organic and Naturally raised” sausages from The Butchers represent.
After thawing of frosted sausages there were about 50ml of water in the plastic bag per 1 lb of meat. It is over 10%. Here is a picture:
The consistence of sausages were very suspicious to be claimed as “Organic and Naturally raised”:
It looks like a sponge which is a sure sign of starch presence in the meat. I used Iodine Test to show everyone that sausages from The Butchers contain a lot of starch. Iodine reacts with starch to produce purple black color or blue black color (depending on how much of starch is present in the product). I’ve written a letter “S” by Iodine on the cut of sausage and it turned purple black:
It means that there is a lot of starch in those sausages. Here is a comparison to understand the reaction. Potato contains starch and pear does not:
Iodine written “S” remained brown on a piece of pear. Iodine reacted with starch contained in potato and “Organic and Naturally raised” sausages from The Butchers.
Is the starch used by The Butchers organic and naturally raised? It could be. But it also could be a modified corn starch or even something less natural. I don’t know.
But sausages with significant amount of starch definitely do not worth $24/kg (or $10.99/lb)! It is like cheap prepacked sausages from the nearest supermarket.
Let’s try to cook them!
I have never seen good barbecue sausages exploding when cooking…
It is because of natural sausage casing which does not crack.
Sausages from The Butchers started to crack quite soon:
Then sausages exploded!
This definitely means that sausage casings are artificial and NOT natural.
Meantime Iodine almost evaporated from the pear without reaction, but left its footprint on the sausage made from starch:
After cooling sausages significantly shrinked:
Inflation of sausages in the oven, shrinking when cooled, excess water – all of these is a sure sign of carrageenan (E407 food additive) in the meat. It is used in the food industry to increase or even double the weight of meat. Carrageenan may cause allergic reactions for some people.
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Scented sausages with preservatives from The Butchers
(update as of April 11)
I left piece of UNCOOKED sausage out of the fridge at a room temperature for about two days.
It did not spoil at all! It has absolutely the same smell as it had two days ago. Natural meat should spoil in a warm place very quickly. However sausages from The Butchers kept their scent which is most likely artificial. Unfortunately I can’t post and share the smell here, but it is absolutely the same as two days ago. It definitely means that at least preservatives have been added to the meat being claimed by The Butchers as “Organic and Naturally raised”. It is a sure sign of artificial flavor added as well. Or has the meat been raised with antibiotics?
This is just one example of bad quality products from The Butchers. For other products and services I have not prepared a visual demonstration, but can add the following:
- Beef had almost the worst quality I have ever tried. It was sinewy and hard (cooked well as usual)
- Poor choice in the store on weekend at around noon
- No receipt provided!
It looks like a million dollars scam with current unfair support from WebPiggy who manipulates with comments on their discussion board by removing valuable truthful posts from the customers in order to conceal information about The Butchers and promote the scam.
Too many unnatural things are happening at The Butchers, don’t you think so?
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The “Last and Final” deal from The Butchers?!!
(April 12, 2011)
Unbelievable! Now on Buytopia with the “Final Deal“:
$99 for $400 Worth of Organically and Naturally Raised Meats from The Butchers – LAST DEAL FROM THE BUTCHERS
Is it really final? I hope this scam will end soon… Will anyone buy this deal from Buytopia.ca after all things happened with previous deals from The Butchers on other daily deal websites?
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Update: We have a report from one of the customers:
Where do The Butchers “Organic meats†come from?
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One more “Last Deal” at DealTicker
(April 15)
“The Butchers” deal on DealTicker with the same $99 for $400 deal. One more last deal?! Let me guess… Next one will be on…
$99 for $400 worth of Organic and Naturally Raised Meats and More from The Butchers (includes a $50 credit to use at soon to be launched Marlon’s Fish store) ($400 Value)
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Attention!
The Butchers website states that the deal on DealTicker is NOT valid!
However DealTicker still states the opposite and encouraging to buy more and more coupons:
What the heck is going on?! Just another promotion?
Here is the answer from DealTicker who sent an e-mail to subscribers very late:
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It has come to our attention that The Butchers are turning away customers and refusing to honour vouchers purchased through our site.
This action has been taken unilaterally by The Butchers without consultation with or prior warning to DealTicker.
As a result of this conduct, we are obliged to discontinue this deal. We are currently in consultations with our legal team and are considering all legal remedies available against The Butchers.
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We sincerely regret any inconvenience the actions of The Butchers may have caused.
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DealTicker was knowingly running the not valid deal for almost entire day looking for profit. Moreover, they solely blame The Butchers for this. This is the worst thing the daily deals company could do. They wanted to sell thousands of deals in five days making tens or hundreds thousand dollar profit regardless of all the negative experience about redeeming earlier coupons shared in the Internet by coupons holders. Unfortunately DealTicker let their users down.
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The article in The Globe and Mail
You may find the original article here:
Ninety-nine bucks for $400 worth of organic meat. Seriously?
written by Tim Kiladze for Saturday’s Globe and Mail.
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Several interesting things in the writing caught my attention and I’d like to comment on them:
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1. Looks like The Butchers is very short on cash now, so they asked daily deal companies for a quicker payment plan.
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2. Marlon Pather and The Butchers are going to run more deals (maybe later).
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3. The author and editors of The Globe and Mail are not aware that Chemistry is indeed science. Here is a definition from Wikipedia for those who still in doubts: “Chemistry is the science of matter and the changes it undergoes”.
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They also claimed:
Then there’s the marketing potential. “What people don’t realize is every customer that’s come into my store, they write their e-mail address,†Mr. Pather says
Has anyone been requested to write e-mail address in store?
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Siesta at The Butchers every weekday!
The company made it almost absolutely impossible to redeem the coupons for people. The Butchers is closed now from 11:30am until 1pm during weekdays and does not accept vouchers on weekends.
For most of the customers lunch time is the only possible time to visit the store during a working day.
This is one more very serious change to the voucher conditions by The Butchers. “Keeping our standards”…
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What’s next with The Butchers? Re-branding!
Marlin’s Fish Shop, Marlons Butchery, Marlon’s Meat
Even if The Butchers goes under there is a good plan. But maybe it is the plan itself… who knows…
I have redeemed my Webpiggy coupons. Success and hooray for the Butcher. The Butcher made some amazing improvements and the meat is better than ever.
After months of trying to redeem my partially used $400 coupon I paid $100 for from Webpiggy, I now see the store tape I was returned with my remaining $184 value + $50 fish store value HAS FADED COMPLETELY. At the time, I complained it would fade, and they wrote on the back in ink (but no signature to prove it).
Having been raised working in a family butcher shop, I noticed the poor quality of the hamburg I had bought and asked a worker, “what’s the difference between your regular and lean ground beef?” He replied, “we grind it one more time”. Wow! He actually said that!
No apology could make up for the fact that this store has financed their upgrades on our money they are holding hostage. If anyone wants to start a class action law suit, I will support it.
I am in the same boat as all the other Webpiggy customers out there. They refuse to take responsibility for this. So I am going to talk to my CC company about a dispute. Enough is enough. I will post updates so you know how this progresses. I am sure they will dispute back and there will be a fight. Oh well. I’ve stopped buying online coupons. Its just not worth it. If you have any successes or failures with a CC dispute relating to The Butchers coupons, please post so we know what might happen.
Has anyone had success getting a refund from their CC company? What approach did you use?
I wrote webpiggy a complaint about this asking for a refund and never received a response.
Today, I got off the phone today with RBC Visa and they said I have 2 options if the company has not declared bankruptcy.
1) submit a claim now and if the merchant claims they will reopen before the coupon expiry date – April 2012, they can say deny the charge back. If they never re-open (likely) I cannot file another charge back claim – crazy visa rule.
2) submit claim in April after the expiry date and if I can prove i wasn’t able to use it, they will refund it.
Any suggestions on how to get a refund now without jeopardizing rights later?
Hello, we saw on the butchers website that voucher holders are requested to place their order through the deal site [buytopia, webpiggy, etc].
Has anyone been able to get any meat since they say they have re-opened?
I heard he was buying meat when it was on sale at places like loblaws and no frills also. Then he would marinate it or just put it for sale at his place at a largely marked up price.
It makes sense for him. If steaks are on sale for 4.99/lb he can buy these and make some kebobs and sell the steaks for 21.99 at his store and still make money. By now everyone knows his food is not organic so they expect that.
The last time I got kebobs there they were inedible. I had to tenderize them for a long time to even try them. Like eating a baseball glove
btw – he stared me down with death stares..he obviously knew what i was laughing at. what a moron.
Just an FYI.
I saw that pig Marlon and his wife at Loblaws (Yonge and Yonge location).
He was actually at the meat counter buying steak and rack of lamb!!
I was laughing so hard in the store people thought i was drunk.
I can only assume then that he is either buying then reselling to voucher holders at a ridiculous markup (suspected even before he closed down, due to the fact NZ Rack of Lamb packages were seen in his store…you know, the ones you buy frozen from Loblaws).
Or, the meat he sells is not good enough for him and he would rather pay full retail at Loblaws.
This was such a scam and I cannot believe nothing has happened to him, legally or otherwise.
@Jay: There is…
I think the police should look into the coupon deals offered. Could there be some fraud?
Don’t know if you all saw the picture over at RFD
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/20110910115438.jpg/
My friend confirmed today that those men doing the construction are his family members. (Shes worked there for almost 4 years!) I bet he was tipped off that Global was coming, so they probably acted like they were working. Notice how marlin wasnt even in the video ?
Get your $$ back people. This store isnt even worth it. Even if it reopens.
Hey trueler,
i just recently found out that “The Butchers” is a SCAM.
I recently met an ex employee of The Butchers and she has confirmed that Marlin has bought a condo in Goa (India). The butchers wont even be opening. Some jewellery store is going to take over that location. His fish store doesnt exist anymore.
Get your money back asap. My friend that worked at The Butchers also told me that her mother got 10 vouchers and got the full refund.
GET YOUR MONEY BACK ASAP BECAUSE IT WONT BE OPENING. AUGUST 17TH HAS ALREADY PASSED. SCAM ! SCAM !!!
I used to be a loyal Butchers customer which is why I purchased a Buytopia coupon. I went to the store twice to redeem my coupon and was shocked at the change in the store, the increase in price, the lack of selection and ultimately the quality of the meat during the “couponing” program. The ground beef had bone bits in it….so disgusting.
Marlon’s coupon rules made me feel like i was redeeming food stamps. For the way he made me feel, i will never forgive Marlon, I will never shop there again (NEVER), and I’m sad to say that I feel the bad press looks good on him. I redeemed 50% of my coupon and will not redeem anymore. I feel dirty when I think of having to go back to the Butchers.
My recourse? I vote with my feet and choose to support reputable, honest butchers with integrity and foresight. I do not support Marlon Panther anymore. Neither should any of us because fool me once, shame on you….fool me twice, shame on me.
I had to fight hard with all the companies but I eventually got all my refunds. I had to threaten going to visa with charge backs and send some firm emails but in the end I got back every cent.
As for the store opening again, even if they do, I don’t see how it is going to be any different. Maybe they will try to do a good job for a week and get the rest of the money from the deal companies then magically stop serving voucher holders again. Or maybe they will run another 11,000 deals
I spent 20 minutes on the phone with Buytopia last week trying to seek a refund to no avail. All they offered me was a credit but Buytopia almost never has any deals to offer anymore and must also be going out of business. I will never buy another product from these group buying companies. I will try and get a refund through VISA now. Even if The Butchers were to open up again I would never trust them now and I especially don’t trust that they have organic meat or even locally sourced hormone and antibiotic free meat. Is there no recourse at all for consumers who purchased a coupon? If The Butchers open again I would be willing to start a group that pickets them regularly ensuring that new customers know exactly what kind of place they are entering. Anyone interested? Does anyone know how to start a class action suit? Is there a place we can go and have a public meeting about this scandal and get everyone’s thoughts and ideas on how to proceed. Time to take action folks against these shysters.
I have been given the run around since April when I purchased a vocuher from Web Pggy . Was never able to redeem through Butchers nor receive an order through delivery. Promise & after promise , excuse afetr excsue. Now same deal w/ Web Piggy . I want my money back & not sure where to turn to now . Web Piggy says cannot give refunds because they have already paid The Butchers. How do you pay someone who has not produced product for their customers? That is not my problem . I made the Deal w/ Web Piggy. I will never get meat now , nor my money back . Anyone have any tips on how I can persue to ensure I get a refund . I don’t care about meat anymore , I needed it 5 months ago!!
Gerrard B. is the biggest shill of all. Constants excuses defending yourself, or your friend, Marlon, whose cock you continuously suck, does not make you truthful.
Marlon ran multiple deals after he had trouble keeping up with demand for the first one. This is why it is a Ponzi scheme.
The Butchers have been reporting, through their website and other means, that they were closing in August for renovations. Today, my wife drove by their storefront and the unit is boarded up. There are no signs, and no visible permits. According to their website, they will be re-opening on August 17th.
My wife and I have an open investigation with MasterCard, and are actively pursuing a full refund from them. With the phone call we received from Marlon last month and now this event, we feel that a refund should be imminent.
Just read this entire thread and wanted to thank Trueler for compiling all this information and making it available.
In a few years, when we look back to pinpoint the end of ‘Groupon mania’, it will be in the first half of 2011. Stories like this, and the story on the Current about the restaurant that shut down the day after receiving payment for their daily deal, illuminate the way in which the system can be manipulated.
This is a case where a few bad apples spoil the lot. The cost is consumer trust, which is the foundation upon which commercial transactions fundamentally rest. If we had to question every single transaction we made, we would be paralyzed by indecision. Consumers buy daily deals expecting that deal to be honoured. If a merchant goes out of business, and the purchase price of the coupon is not refunded, then consumer trust take a big hit.
Don’t get me wrong – there will always be room for this model of marketing. 98% of merchants are well intentioned, and most daily deal companies are trying to do what is best. Unfortunately, players like Webpiggy (where I bought my Butchers coupon) are not. They are absolving themselves of the risk, reaping the full benefits of their ‘cut’ of the coupon and passing on all the risk of default to the consumer. For them to say they are not responsible for refunds in the event a merchant going bankrupt is both amoral and unethical.
It is players like Webpiggy that will (hopefully) be the first to fall when the mania over daily deals fade. There isn’t room in the Toronto marketplace for 40 daily deal companies, and I would bet we’ll see the first collapses be the end of the year. The Butchers is just a flashpoint, a grand reveal of a great fundamental flaw in the model, which is manipulation, and in this case, fraud, by the merchant.
Which brings me to one last point about the CBC interview with Marlon. When asked why he didn’t pull the plug on the coupons, he essentially asserted that the deals were binding. While this is probably fundamentally correct, he absolutely must have seen the problems after the very first coupon was issued. He would have needed to be incredibly naive to not see the problem with trying to honour over $2 million dollars in coupons for which he got about 25 cents on the dollar. The numbers could never, ever, have made sense. Not with the size of the store, the margins on meat products (well, fake 100% organic sausages aside), and not with the staffing overhead.
The Butchers is a ponzi scheme, likely not the last we’ll see, either. Only 55% of merchants report ‘making money’ on their daily deal, and only 20% of daily deal customers turn into repeat customers. The numbers for this industry don’t add up, and we should hope that 2012 sees some sanity return to the market, and the end of dishonest companies like Webpiggy that absolve their responsibility for the deals they construct.
For months there was always an excuse. Broken this, broken that. Something else not working. Any excuse to get out of the coupon deal. They must have honestly thought people were stupid and were going to just keeping buying the excuses as they still are. If any store really had that many problems with their storage and were unable to fix it, they would be out of business very fast.
A Butcher shop without working fridges for 2 months….lol
And he can sell to customers now no problem, but for the vouchers he needs a special renovation..
At least I would have respected him more if he just told the truth from the beginning and didn’t lie and treat the voucher people like animals.
Gerrard B, if you know “Don’t believe everything you read online”, then you should know absolutely well that “you should not believe everything you were told”.
I bought the coupon, I went to the store Sunday morning and they just opened. There were no beef, just some chicken and some pork chop. Their excuse for limited selection was the compressor was broken down. I placed my order online and never heard any reply.
Are you going to tell me don’t believe my own experience?
If you have so much faith in the deal, why don’t you buy coupons from us and you will get the best deal in the world!
If they are still open and not trying to serve the voucher holders then shame on them. Everyone else’s cash is ok, but mine is no good because they offered me a coupon?
They are going to try to do damage control with their ‘regulars’ They have two stores across from each other and lots of freezer space. Who cares about the amount of freezer space anyway, it is irrelevant. When they sell out, they sell out. They should be happy to sell out. Who cares if they want more space. Who doesn’t.
Webpiggy is an absolute scam. They promised to take my butchers coupon order and get The butchers to deliver or else refund the coupon however neither has happened. It’s been 2+ Months of following up with webpiggy and them giving one excuse after another and now they won’t provide refunds on the account of “We’ve paid the butchers now”.
Webpiggy and the butchers is the ultimate scam. $200 wasted.
I have no faith in online deals anymore due to this experience.
Sasals, Did it ever occur to you that I know “Inside stories” because I actually talk to Marlon when I go in and get his side of the story. Remember back in the day when people used to tell you “Don’t believe everything you read online”? Well I don’t, and that’s why I ask questions and that’s why I’m the only one who seems to be defending him. I’m not saying there were never any hassles, but after 10 years of business, one thing got out of hand and then a bunch of people came forward with complaints. To “kick him when he’s down” it seems. What no one realizes, is that Marlon will come back better than ever, accept the vouchers and everything will go back to normal and all of you will feel like fools. I would feel sorry for you, but I don’t because I don’t like any of you.
Gary, they’re usually open, yes not everyday, but when they are they are open for business. No, the vouchers are not being accepted until renos are done. Honestly though, they need to update their website frequently to let people know when they’re open and closed so people like you can stop complaining.
Gerrard, why do you say the store is open? Every time I walk by it is closed and their website says they are closed and will re-open Aug 17. http://www.thebutchersorganic.com/message.html
Are you saying they are only open for you? Or they are still running without posting their yellow card in the window?
Or they have meat and are still running, but have decided to cancel all vouchers until they feel like doing them again?
Pick any one of those, or make up your own story, but there is nothing that would exonerate them.
Gerrard B.,
Just buy all the remaining vouchers for cash as Sasals suggested! Why not?
I do listen to everyone, but you don’t listen to facts which showed it was a scam. It’s obviously because you are tied to the store and trying to whiten their reputation which won’t happen if you will continue in this way blaming customers and demanding apologies from the customers as Marlon behaved in his interviews.
To Everyone who is not aware:
About health code violations. When the business is caught with violations, it is given 48 hours to fix them and continue to work. I think it’s not right and the business must be closed immediately with a huge fine. Just read the results of The Butchers inspection with many crucial violations.
Does anyone want to buy any food from there?
INADEQUATE FOOD TEMPERATURE CONTROL:
– Operator fail to maintain hazardous food(s) at 4C (40F) or colder.
FAILURE TO PROTECT FOOD FROM CONTAMINATION:
– Operator fail to ensure food is not contaminated/adulterated
– Operator fail to use proper utensils to ensure food safety
FAILURE TO ENSURE / PROVIDE FOR PROPER EMPLOYEE HYGIENE / HANDWASHING:
– Operator fail to provide hand washing supplies
– Employee fail to wash hands when required
– Food handler fail to wear headgear
IMPROPER MAINTENANCE / SANITATION OF FOOD CONTACT SURFACES / UTENSILS /EQUIPMENT:
– Operator fail to properly maintain equipment
– Operator fail to properly wash multi-use utensils
IMPROPER MAINTENANCE / SANITATION OF NON-FOOD CONTACT SURFACES / EQUIPMENT:
– Operator fail to provide proper mechanical equipment
– Operator fail to properly maintain rooms
– Operator fail to properly maintain equipment(NON-FOOD)
– Operator fail to properly wash equipment
Source: http://app.toronto.ca/food2/DineSafeMain?userRequest=view_history&ESTABLISHMENT_ID=9015608
It’s disgusting and extremely risky for health and life…
“Gerrard B” = Marlon? “Gerrard B” seems to know inside stories that we don’t know, seems The Butcher’s favour that Marlon was talking to him/her, the store was open when he/she was there, got treated like a customer, and even able to buy “tasty” meat too.
“Gerrard B”, since you are The Butcher’s loyal customer, so pleased with their services and products, so sure the store will be reopen, why don’t you buy vouchers from us and use them yourself.
Actually Trueler, I’m providing the other side of the store for a man who you won’t listen to. I am not a “shill” for the butchers, I am simple a loyal customer who doesn’t like to see innocent people mistreated.
And Gary, If they failed so many health code violations, don’t you think they would have been forced to shut down instead of continuing business until renovations are complete?
Also to anyone else out there, I hope that when the Butchers re-opens after renovations and honors the vouchers and gets business back up, that many if not all of you will apologize and admit that you were wrong. Because you are.
“Gerrard B.” is a shill for The Butchers. He/She is defending Marlon and his store by providing deceptive information misleading people who may not be aware of what The Butcher is.
I was there at about 1pm on a Saturday. Lol “whats the big deal” I think if you have been following this thread and the ones on redflagdeals you would know what the big deal is.
No one is mad that they are renovating. They are mad because they were treated like animals for months and turned away countless times from redeeming their vouchers. Lied to and mistreatd. Also, the sad fact that the store miserably failed many of the health inspections.
I would have thought you could gather this by reading the above posts. If you don’t have the redflag link here it is.
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/merged-butchers-organic-meat-feedback-discussion-999078/
There are only 72 pages of disgruntled people, happy reading.
@Kate, would you like to explain to me how calling you a ‘smart girl’ is sexist? If anything it’s sarcastic. Get a dictionary.
@Gary, What time did you go? Also what day, they’re preparing for renovations and had to close for a couple days, what’s the big deal? They’re closing for 3 weeks to renovate the store to make it better, are you going to get mad about that too?
Gerrard, I got my information from standing outside of the store. Unless the staff have all turned invisible, including the meat – the store was closed. The door was locked,etc. Maybe they only open when you are going? Lucky
If they owed me me money Id go down the list of the charities who have logos on their site and point out how buytopia is behaving, with links, asking if they want to be associated with them, while c.c.ing buytopia each time
The other address shown on Buytopia’s site is under the privacy link, 25 Telegram Mews, Suite 3806, which is probably one of the owners apartments.
They tell everyone on their facebook page whether its the butchers or another problem to phone the 1-800, which they don’t answer. I wouldn’t hold my breath on ever seeing a refund from them.
@gerrard b – clearly you are, since you replied to that!
i’m a ‘smart girl’ eh? surely you’re a smarter and more mature man (or should i say boy?) who doesn’t need to resort to sexist condescension to win an argument.
@Gary, the store is not closed, I was in there today and bought some beautiful cuts of meat. I don’t know where you’re getting your information wrong, but you should really do your research before you post comments.
@Carole O.:
If you missed it… I used coupons at The Butchers some time ago, and know about quality and service at Marlon’s store. A research has also been done.
I did get a refund from Webpiggy finally. Buytopia said they would, but it never showed up this month…. maybe next month…or maybe never.
In the meantime, the store is closed. I don’t care what their excuse is. It is closed to the public, if its a month or 2, or forever its all the same difference to me. I don’t see how they are going to reopen and suddenly be able to serve all the coupon holders. They couldn’t do it last time and I don’t think an extra freezer is going to help. They had the fish store across the road with extra freezers if that really was the problem….And lets not forget the health code violations.
I bought some vouchers for the buthers. I have an allergic reaction to growth hormones, and in May I used my voucher. I found the staff nice and it was the end of the day, so the options were minimal. But I can tell you, I didn’t have an allergic reaction, so will use my other vouchers, and will probably shop there afterwards.
How could you possibly know any of this? You’re a person with a website in Oakville or something, there is no possible way you could know the ins and outs of Marlons store.
I have had no luck in getting any response from buytopia despite several emails and phone messages. Either they have moved or closed as they can’t be found on Spectrum Way near airport. Do they operate under another name? Any ideas? On principle I am not going to let this drop. Dealfind has done the right thing in providing responses and refunds. Why not Buytopia?
And now RFD is reporting the place is completely shuttered with no activity inside. He took the money and ran…
Yongeman has been conspicuous by his absence on CH…. he’s probably hiding out WITH Marlon…
I don’t think anyone would have had a problem if they put a $100 cap on each visit or something. It was the fact that they would not even let customers in the door unless they had cash that pissed people off. Also the fact that they lied about all the orders and deliveries and never did them. They violated every term of the coupon and treated people with coupons like animals. That was the problem
@ Carole O.:
It has been proven to be scam. I’ve already explained why. If you missed… The Butchers won customers confidence in the very beginning before the deal on DealFind by providing the best quality possible. After that The Butchers started to provide disgusting staff and unacceptable quality and service like:
– The cheapest meat from the chain of resellers instead of organic meat from local farms as they claimed
– Meat stuffed with starch, water, and other additives
– Awful quality of meat
– Not honoring coupons whenever they wish
– etc. etc. etc…
Thanks,
Trueler
@ Gerrard B.:
I’ve read/heard what he said in his interviews and I know for sure that some things are not true at all.
I’ve been going to The Butchers for years now, and I will admit, I haven’t been happy with this whole voucher deal, but I really don’t think it’s a scam or anything else bad people have been saying. How is it a scam if they only let you use one voucher per visit? They sold a ton of vouchers. That brings them a lot of new customers a day all trying to redeem the full amount of their vouchers at once, which they do and it cleans them out of meat, making it hard to please other customers, that’s why they’ve had to constantly change the rules, it’s to try and sell to everyone!
@ Trueler, how do you know he lied? You don’t even know him.
@Kate raynes-goldie, right, cuz I’m on here all the time, smart girl.
@gerrard b
you said “You must have a lot of time on your hands to be putting up such a fuss about all this,”
and you must have a lot of time on your hands putting a fuss into trolling websites to defend an unethical, greedy butcher.
Is there a class action lawsuit forming for this issue?