Fake Toshiba Memory Cards from XSV 360 on DealFind

DealFind featured very “great” deal again (remember “The Butchers”?):

$29 for a 32 GB SD Memory Card, Including Shipping from XSV 360 ($99 Value)

XSV 360 has been promoted on other daily deal websites like DealTicker, WagJag, SwarmJam, Groupon, WebPiggy, Buy2, JabrDeals, PriceDodger, DealGetters. Also with another “manufacturer” – PNY instead of Toshiba, and as micro-SD cards as well.

But if the deal is too good to be true… you know… do not forget that 50% goes to DealFind, i.e. XSV 360 will only get $14.50 per memory card sold. This is absolutely impossible price for branded 32 GB SD Memory Card with Class 10 speed rating. So, it is most likely fake, i.e. at least not from Toshiba, and not 32 GB. Let’s check it out.

The picture shows “Powered By Toshiba” which let people think that the card is manufactured by Toshiba:

DealFind XSV 360 SDHC Toshiba Card Deal

DealFind customer satisfaction experts even confirmed that 32GB SDHC Class 10 Memory Cards provided by XSV360 are manufactured by Toshiba but in a very shady way. Many customers asked what “Powered by Toshiba” actually means on their discussion board about this deal. Some unknown (no XSV360-related signature) user “Lloyd” answered common question, and DealFind customer satisfaction expert confirmed it in a short way: “Lloyd is correct!“:

(click on images to enlarge)

DealFind XSV 360 – Lloyd

DealFind XSV 360 – Lloyd is Correct

Let’s take a looks at Toshiba website to see what kind of 32 GB SD memory cards they offer:

Black one:

Toshiba 32GB SDHC Memory Card – Black

And white one:

Toshiba 32GB SDHC Memory Card – White

Toshiba does not manufacture memory cards featured by DealFind and XSV 360!

One of the customer satisfaction experts even provided the make – “HS”, model number SDM32G, and serial number VHSX95Y of memory cards:

DealFind XSV 360 - Model Number

However, “HS” is absolutely unknown make, only xsv360.com and DealFind know about this make. If we try to search for model number in the Internet, we can find that SDM32G model number corresponds to Novatech SD memory cards. Not Toshiba or even so called “HS”:

NovaTech SD Card

 

What about warranty? XSV360 website sells all the products “As-Is” on their website. They do not make any refunds and do not provide any kind of warranty!

XSV 360 Return Policy

However, “Lloyd – Toronto” – either representative from XSV 360 or DealFind, claims that there is a warranty on these memory cards provided by Toshiba. In case of any failures customers should contact Toshiba:

DealFind XSV 360 – Lloyd Warranty

But! Toshiba support is not aware about this product at all. It does not exist…

DealFind XSV360 – Warranty Invalid

It is also funny, but seems like DealFind does not even know what they sell:

DealFind XSV360 – Full Name

And the most popular answer of DealFind Customer Satisfaction Experts is:

Thanks for your post!

We are looking into your question and will get back to you shortly! Please Stay tuned :)

Thank you for using Dealfind!

Kym

Customer Satisfaction Expert

Dealfind

Looks like killing time… because DealFind must know answers to most of the questions if the deal had been well prepared for the customers…

So far, over 6200 memory cards have been sold, which is $180,000 – almost one hundred thousand dollars for each of them – XSV 360 and DealFind.

 

Summarizing information to let people decide whether to buy this “deal” or not:

  • 85% discount (50% of voucher cost goes to DealFind) for branded piece of electronic such as 32GB SDHC Class 10 Memory Card from Toshiba is absolutely impossible. It means that the product is fake
  • Toshiba does not recognize the product model and serial numbers
  • XSV 360 sells products “As-Is”. Refunds are not accepted at all
  • No warranty on the product. If something is wrong, you loose money
  • XSV 360 sells many other scam products like Energy Balance Bracelets with ion technology, Kinoki Foot Pads, fake PNY 32GB SDHC memory cards, fake Vapur bottles, etc, etc, etc…

What can be wrong with the card when you receive it? Do you think it still worth even $29?

  • Again, absolutely no warranty, no refunds
  • It can be some cheap 2GB/4GB/8GB memory card which will be shown as 32GB in your device’s operating system. But when you will reach the actual physical size of the memory card, it will start overwriting existing contents on the card and producing read/write errors when you will try to access some old data.
  • It can be just broken out of the envelope – no refunds…

DealFind promise?! When you realize that something is wrong with the card (when it reaches its actual size), 30 days will most likely pass, and no one will help you…

This deal is expected to run for about one week more… That is people can start ordering from XSV 360 website only in one week + couple days for putting coupons in XSV360.com database as stated on their website. Since there are thousands of orders, it will most likely take more than 3 weeks for the product to be delivered.

DealFind and XSV360 are absolutely safe and protected by their own “terms” and “promises” from their customers

Think about this now!

Beware!

 

Update as of Nov 23, 2011

 

Dealfind sold about 8500 fake 32GB memory cards “Powered by Toshiba” from XSV360, i.e. around $247,000. Deal is still running…

There were confusions about the product being featured. Dealfind claimed that the memory cards are indeed manufactured by Toshiba and have standard Toshiba Warranty (in a shady way as mentioned above):

(citations are from DealFind discussion board about this deal)

This SD Card is manufactured by Toshiba, and will come with a standard Toshiba Warranty in addition to any warranty which the vendor will offer

They were also telling about some “HS” manufacturer – nobody has idea about them…

XSV 360 is under legal obligation with the manufacturer not to disclose their information and unfortunately we do not have access to this information

How do we claim warranty then?…

Later they claimed that only the chip inside the card is NOT manufactured by Toshiba:

It means that Toshiba manufactured the card and its circuitry. It does not mean that Toshiba manufactured the actual memory chip inside the card, since very few manufactures actually do produce their own memory chips.

Note, that they told that chip is NOT manufactured by Toshiba.

Now they tell that the chip IS manufactured by Toshiba, not the card itself:

The SD card is not made by Toshiba, however it is powered by a Toshiba chip

They have changed information about this twice. I won’t wonder if they will change information about warranty and refunds after orders are placed. There are two things:

  • DealFind promise – 30 days. People who bought this deal most likely won’t see “products” before winter holidays, so don’t rely on it.
  • XSV360 website explicitly says that there is absolutely no warranty and no refunds for all products (not only for health products, as DealFind mentioned). They’ve just put warranty statements for this particular product in order to make more sales.

XSV360 return policy can be found here:

http://www.xsv360.com/Return_Policy

There is also a screenshot of this policy above in this post.

DealFind and XSV360 are trying hard to sell as much “deals” as possible to their “valued” customers…

DealFind XSV360 – Comments Confusion

Recently XSV360 posted the picture of the chip which is “manufactured by Toshiba”:

DealFind XSV360 - Comments - Chip Link

Here is the link:

http://www.xsv360.com/image/cache/data/products/toshiba-500×500.JPG

Well, let’s take a look what it is (screenshot from XSV360 website):

DealFind XSV360 - Toshiba Chip

It distinctly shows “TOSHIBA” in the corner. But the part number which is at the bottom is very blurred. I have only two guesses why we can’t clearly see entire number:

  • Manufacturing defect when printing letters on the chip. It can happen with everyone, right? But usually defective semiconductor parts are not released for sale.
  • XSV360 made a picture in such way…

Anyways, let’s check “Toshiba Semiconductor General Catalog: Memories and Storage Devices” which can be found at official Toshiba website:

http://www.semicon.toshiba.co.jp/docs/catalog/en/SCE0004-02_catalog.pdf

32GB memories have very different part numbers from what XSV360 provided on their picture.

Memories from the catalog with the most common part number are actually 8GB (and some of them are marked as “under development”)…

188 thoughts on “Fake Toshiba Memory Cards from XSV 360 on DealFind”

  1. That’s true. Deal sites definitely have to warn all the people! But instead some of them like BuyTopia and SwarmJam are still selling cards…

    At this point nobody has confirmed that 32GB class 10 card has been received! Only 2-8GB and very slow…

  2. Please, stop commenting on how went your refund, … Call you credit card company and so be it.

    The problem is that they HAVE TO WARN every people who purchased it !

  3. Thanks for update. Do not destroy (send back) evidence!

    This site was experiencing continuous DDoS attacks during the past week which took us down and really harmed. I’m looking for some better hosting solution now. But everything promising is too expensive…

    Regards,
    Trueler

  4. Update: I finally got the refund credited back to my account. They also sent me an email to return the “corrupt”, a.k.a. “fake”, cards, so that XSV360 can re-issue good ones. I kept the cards, and told everyone that I know to keep them as well. Just wondering if a class-action can be in the works with all the actual proof (the cards themselves). Everyone, and I mean everyone, I talked to have said that their cards are f**ked up.

    BTW: What happened to this site the past week or so?

  5. Thanks Dan. I’m not sure about Mr. Gary Lipovetsky… But some DealFind representatives became aware of the fraud when this post has been published, i.e. on Nov 20. But they still don’t want to do anything about it, i.e. refund money to all the customers and ask police to investigate and prosecute XSV 360. So now DealFind commits the same fraud by defending XSV 360.

    Regards,
    Truler

  6. My letter to dealfind…….

    I received this card yesterday, December 16th, and it was packaged like it was done by a child. On opening the envelope there was no documentation, no card packaging and the card was blank? The label had come off in the envelope. In my previous employment as I used these cards on a daily basis and even had occasion to put them through the washing machine several times. The labels never came off any one of these cards. Further, I tested the card with two different memory programs and it failed both times only showing 7.5 GB. I tried to put it into a Nikon Camera and it wouldn’t “click” in, meaning the case is not even up to specifications. After reading the internet reviews, I can only conclude that this “deal” is in fact a fraud and that if Dealfind is not a willing participant, then they would not be so complacent? I am referring the matter to the BBB and RCMP Commercial Crime Squad. I was advised by them that the dollar value is not as important as the number of complainants/victims.

    I am requesting an immediate refund as per your satisfaction policy. Is Mr. Gary Lipovetsky aware of this fraud? I would suggest you correct this with all of the purchasers as I believe this is only the beginning of these complaints.

    Card test results….

    This media is defective.
    7.7 GByte OK (16174879 sectors)
    16.5 GByte DATA LOST (34722017 sectors)
    Details:0 KByte overwritten (0 sectors)
    0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
    16.5 GByte corrupted (34722017 sectors)
    0 KByte aliased memory (0 sectors)
    First error at offset: 0x00000001c163c000
    Expected: 0x00000001c163c000
    Found: 0x0000000000000000

  7. Hi Bridget,

    I’ve seen your comment on discussion board asking about Lloyd. Actually Dealfind confirmed all the statements made by Lloyd, but almost everything was a lie…

    DealFind knew that those cards were fake, but continued to sell them until the end of the week…

    Regards,
    Trueler

  8. Just for everyones information, dealfind told me, as I posted earlier ,that they would honour returns with refunds after the 30 day period in situations such as this one. Warren

  9. I got my card today. Same crooked label & packaging as everybody else. No case. Mine tests at 31GB it also says it isn’t fast enough to use, so not even class 4. Called Dealfind & was told to mail it back and when they verify receipt they will refund. I said I don’t trust this, so they said send it COD, then it will be tracked. They didn’t know what the charge was for this but thought it would be free. Haha. Canada Post says $7.50, so called Dealfind back and spoke with Melissa (agent #423)who was very confused by this and said their ‘Compliance Team’ is back on Monday morning and she would talk to them and get back to me. She also said she’d send me a quick email verifying our conversation right away. That was over 2 hours ago and no email. No doubt the name and agent # are also bogus. I also posted questions to the Q & A and had some of them deleted. Also the Lloyd guy answered some and so I posted and asked them if he was staff or not & if he isn’t why is he answering questions on their behalf? This question was also deleted. They know full well that it’s a scam and said that XSV had said the cards were real, they had 20,000 in stock, they would arrive a week after ordering, and that they were in the lower mainland. Turns out the cards are fake, it took 19 days to get my card, and it came from Ontario. I don’t think Dealfind does any checking whatsoever on these companies other than to do the math on how much money they will make on the deal.

  10. Well, I requested a refund from Dealfind, and they say that they processed it. I’ll check in a couple of days to see if my card has been credited. So far, Dealfind has been pretty good in the refund process. I will let you know it I got my money back.

    BTW, I got the same email as @Mike.

  11. Thanks for information, BrownGirl and Mike.

    It is a lie from XSV 360 and DealFind that it was “a small percentage” of fake cards. They even provided a picture of 8GB “Toshiba” chip inside their memory cards through DealFind discussion board and xsv360.com…

    Everyone: just request a refund from DealFind/SwarmJam/DealTicker/BuyTopia/WebPiggy/WagJag or whoever as soon as possible.

    – 30 days will pass and DealFind won’t care anymore
    – Nobody guarantees that those scammers will send “32GB class 10” cards
    – Do you really want this hassle of sending card back to them with tracking number and signature required paying out of your pocket?

    Regards,
    Trueler

  12. Got this via email today.

    Hello Valued Dealfind Customer,

    We are writing to update you on the great deal you purchased November 7th – 26th, 2011, which was, $29 for a 32 GB SD Memory Card, Including Shipping from XSV 360 ($99 Value).

    Dealfind and the Merchant sincerely apologize for any inconvenience, however, the merchant has found that a small percentage of the SD Memory Cards that were sent out did not have the full 32GB capacity.

    If you have received your SD Memory Card, please send your SD Memory Card back to the merchant through regular mail to:
    1-5350 Canotek Rd
    Ottawa, Ontario K1J9C9
    Canada

    Once the merchant receives the SD Memory Card, they will ship you a new 32GB, 10 Speed SD Memory Card right away, without any additional costs.

    Once again, we apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.

    Thank you for using Dealfind!

    Sincerely,
    The Dealfind Team
    http://www.dealfind.com/contact-us.php

  13. FYI: I requested a refund via Dealfind since Friday – still waiting on it to go through on my credit card. I am still within the 30 day limit so I should receive 100% of what my credit card was charged.

    As well, Dealfind just sent out a mass email to those who purchased this 32G Memory Card deal: READ BELOW…

    Hello Valued Dealfind Customer,

    We are writing to update you on the great deal you purchased November 7th – 26th, 2011, which was, $29 for a 32 GB SD Memory Card, Including Shipping from XSV 360 ($99 Value).

    Dealfind and the Merchant sincerely apologize for any inconvenience, however, the merchant has found that a small percentage of the SD Memory Cards that were sent out did not have the full 32GB capacity.

    If you have received your SD Memory Card, please send your SD Memory Card back to the merchant through regular mail to:
    1-5350 Canotek Rd
    Ottawa, Ontario K1J9C9
    Canada

    Once the merchant receives the SD Memory Card, they will ship you a new 32GB, 10 Speed SD Memory Card right away, without any additional costs.

    Once again, we apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.

    Thank you for using Dealfind!

  14. I Got my card in the mail on Friday. It looks like a 5 year make it.. arrived in a white plan envelope, no packaging, no case, just the SD card and half of a piece of paper which was the invoice.

    The label on the card is not on straight. H2testw confirms its a 8GB card.. with hacked firmware.

    I copied 7 GB of data to it, was able to read it..
    copied another 4 gig file.. that file couldn’t be read

    formatted the card, copied a 16GB file.. also bad.
    formatted, copied 30 GB of small files.. 90% of them bad. (i knew the card was bad before i even received it but wanted to go through the motions.).

    Also getting the run around from dealfind support.. they are still NOT acknowledging this issue yet… Why would they? if they did they lose about $150k in profits.
    myabe 50% of the customers will never know their card is bad because they won’t ever put more than 8gb on it.. while the rest of them will assume the card went bad after a few weeks/months and not be able to do anything about it, other than be sad about the photos the lost.

    i’ll go ahead and file a complaint with my credit card vendor too.

    Alan

  15. I received mine and confirmed fake. I wonder if there is a current class-action going on or if one is about to be started. F**ing scammers.

  16. Has anyone contacted Toshiba about this?
    Toshiba makes millions of dollars every year and do have their own lawyers.
    I contacted the manufacturer of one product from XSV and dealfind and sent them the website,Dealfind question section adn they said their legal team would address this (and were quite nice to me too….sent me a few items :)
    -no it was not memory cards…I wish! (was some water bottles).

    So unless the company whose brand is on here is not aware of this, companies will try and just sell more of this crap.

    I think I will just stick to buying memory cards at Future Shop or Best Buy unless I see another “respected” store.
    My needs for memory that works is important- I have to take some photos for my work and can not get back to the same places easily every day and there is a deadline for those photos.
    Also I enter photo contests and do not want to lose those photos of events I go to.

    But maybe for some people I guess it is ok to lose all your holiday and family photos.

  17. Just got the card today and ran the H2testw. It’s confirm that it’s a 8GB card

    The media is likely to be defective.
    7.8 GByte OK (16472064 sectors)
    23.4 GByte DATA LOST (49143808 sectors)
    Details:0 KByte overwritten (0 sectors)
    0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
    23.4 GByte corrupted (49143808 sectors)
    0 KByte aliased memory (0 sectors)
    First error at offset: 0x00000001f5c41e00
    Expected: 0x00000001f5c41e00
    Found: 0x0000000000000000
    H2testw version 1.3
    Writing speed: 3.26 MByte/s
    Reading speed: 6.60 MByte/s
    H2testw v1.4

  18. Hi Jason,

    It is outrageous!

    SwarmJam trusts scammy vendor without any questions, but absolutely ignores customers?! What the…

    Several people already confirmed that those are 8GB unknown class cards which are dangerous for storing data.

    Thanks for information.

    Trueler

  19. Just thought I’d add my two cents. I emailed dealfind (the deal is running in Calgary as well right now). Here was the exchange:

    Me:
    Hi, I just thought you should know that one of your daily deals is being hailed as a scam by a number of websites, including:

    http://forums.redflagdeals.com/merged-29-toshiba-32-gb-sdhc-class-10-card-including-shipping-taxes-1106862/

    and

    http://trueler.com/2011/11/20/fake-memory-card-xsv-360-dealfind-scam/

    Their response to me:
    Hi Jason,

    Thanks for letting us know.

    We are aware of it and the vendor confirmed that the cards are legit.

    If you have further questions please contact us.

    Regards,

    Patrick
    SwarmJam Support
    Tel: 1.877.629.3976

  20. Every card is a dangerous scam, many people are posting the same results, : The media is likely to be defective.
    7.7 GByte OK (16353706 sectors)
    23.5 GByte DATA LOST (49378902 sectors)
    Details:23.5 GByte overwritten (49378888 sectors)
    0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
    7 KByte corrupted (14 sectors)
    16 MByte aliased memory (32768 sectors)
    Writing speed: 1.29 MByte/s
    Reading speed: 2.24 MByte/s
    H2testw v1.4

    As long as I get a refund I don't give a shit about all others affected.

  21. Refund was posted to my credit card, never redeemed the voucher, played email tag with Dealfind but it is finally done. Will think twice the next time I see a “Deal”. Thanks to this site and all posters for providing valuable information and I hope everyone else receives/uses this info to recover their hard earned cash.

  22. @Robyn,

    It’s not a speculation actually… there are facts provided…

    They will work “fine” (if you absolutely don’t care about speed and reliability) until the data stored on the card exceeds 8GB (or whatever actual capacity is). After that data will start to be overwritten possibly without any signs. When you will try to retrieve some pictures/videos/documents/etc, they will be corrupted. Beware of this! If you decided to keep those, you might want to properly check memory cards in order to avoid any frustration due to loss of important data/pictures.

    BTW, only 10 days passed after Nov 26 – the first day when cards could be ordered from XSV 360 and their website was down. How was it “12 days after ordering them”?

    Also… Investigation and some feedback showed that fair price for 4 cards which have been described by XSV 360 and DealFind is less than $50… You paid $120… and think that the value is $600…

    Thanks,
    Trueler

  23. @Pat: The original poster said this:

    “I have tried for two days to get through to no avail. No one should have to pay up front, wait a week and then have to waste so much time trying to redeem the vouchers”

    The complaint was about wasting two days on redeeming the vouchers with no success due to XSV 360 website problems, as I understood.

    Thanks,
    Trueler

  24. Hi everyone,
    Although there is speculation that this is a scam, they work. I received my SD cards (4) in the mail 12 days after ordering them… and they work just fine? I don’t see what the issue is. Who cares if it’s fake or not, everything is made in China. You just can chose to pay 100 or 600 for them. XSV has a great deal going on, regardless.
    -R

  25. I just wanted to say that to those who were saying that it’s ridiculous that you have to wait a week before using the voucher until the deal is done…that is the same as hundreds of other company deals as well. I have bought lots of vouchers from restuarants and stores and I always have to wait one week until the deal is done to use the voucher..so I’m just saying that it’s not rare to have to wait as it is the policy of many other company’s as well. So I don’t think that this particular complaint is valid in this discussion about fake items..of course it’s not right to receive fake items..but who cares if you have to wait until the deal is done to use it..HUNDREDS of other known company’s have the same policy…just shows that people complain about just about anything don’t they?

  26. Buytopia is running this now, and deleting comments that point out its already known the card is fake.

  27. It’s true, Transisto.

    Damage for people is much more than $29/card paid for these fraudulent “deals” if pretending that the memory cards are reliable 32GB. Will daily deal websites compensate customers for all the lost memories and important information?!

    DealFind, WagJag, SwarmJam, DealTicker, or whoever featured the scam from XSV360, make it right!

    Inform all the voucher holders about this accident ASAP! Even if you believe it was not your fault.

    Otherwise people may not forgive you…

    Thanks,
    Trueler

  28. I think you guys don’t understand the scope of the fraud going on.

    The real issue is a much larger problem, There are possibly tens of thousands of people who bought a memory card and are yet unaware of the issues they will come upon down the road.

    What will happen is that the card will only save data up to the true capacity of the card (4-8gb) everything written afterward will be lost, the card will simply “pretend” that the data are saved.

    You can move a backup, souvenirs or very important document into this card and lose it all.

    Also later, some customer may contacts the purported manufacturer of the card, get told it is a fake, and no warranty coverage is available.

    30+ days have passed, most deal websites tell the customer to pound sand. A few get refunds after emailing/calling many times.

    Deal websites count the dollar bills they have already earned (scammed).

    XSV360 owner prepares their next round of deals offering 256GB SD cards for $12.99. Tens of thousands new unsuspecting consumers get taken again.

    Every deal-sites not reporting the fraud to all people who purchased this item via email should get lynched or at least sued for being accomplice of a large scale, planed data destruction having profited from it knowingly.

    How can you even be worried about getting a refund for yourself ?

    I’m telling you THIS IS BAD.

    Another discussion about this is located here : http://forums.redflagdeals.com/merged-rfd-group-buy-deal-pny-32gb-sdhc-class10-card-29-99-a-1101621/8/

  29. Natalie:

    Dealfind emailed me stating

    As for the product, the merchant apologizes that you were not satisfied with the product, and ensures you that this may be an error with your product. They have requested that you return their product to:

    1-5350 Canotek Rd
    Ottawa, Ontario K1J9C9
    Canada

    Please indicate on the envelope “ATTN: Henry” and indicate that it is in regards to a refund for voucher #5156-0413.

    So I’m assuming that S&H comes out of consumers pocket but I’m not sending nothing back unless I get in writing or something that I will be reimbursed.

  30. Question for those who have already received their memory card and asking for a refund.

    How have you been able to return the item? I would think that Dealfind would want you to ship back the item to XSV 360? Please let me know and who will be responsible for paying the shipping costs?

  31. Mike,

    It is probably too small case for RCMP or federal fraud agencies… About a year ago after discovering some fraud or scam I was trying to contact mass media or some agencies, but no one was interested. So I decided to better let people know here, so at least everyone who does online research before using some business is aware and can take precautions.

    There was a real fraud in March 2011: Is deal55 legit or scam? It’s Fraud and Phishing! Beware!

    Lawrence Farbman created a website – deal55.com, where he offered $100 gift cards from major stores like BestBuy, Winners, Lululemon, etc. for $45, i.e. 55% discount. In fact he just did not send gift cards. Has he been prosecuted for this? No. Instead mass media was interviewing him!…

  32. Natalie,

    Daily deal sites are changing, unfortunately not in the good direction. Many really good deals happened on the websites you mentioned in the past. But recently things have changed… Here are just several examples of daily deal scams from “reputable” websites, if you are interested:

    World Wide Connect Calling Cards Complaint

    Negative Ion Bands, Bracelet and Sports Watch Scam

    Scam on DealTicker: Shooting Range at Tim Hortons

    The Butchers Scam on BuyTopia, WebPiggy.. Additives in meat

    Valentine’s Day Scam on Groupon: FTD Flowers

    Regards,
    Trueler

  33. Why would people still be buying these after people on other sites received other fake items from XSV?

    Since it is a data and counterfeit issue and maybe a credit card issue is there any gov’t dept that can deal with this?

    Also XSV is selling a lot of items that can be harmful to kids and babies like child safety items?
    WTF…they should not be selling those no name items

  34. I can only say that if you have the proof, and it appears you have, that these are fakes, then go to the RCMP or whatever local or federal agency handles fraud cases and file a complaint. Until that happens they will just keep selling them as they don’t care, if they have 5000 of 10000 sold returned, they still have 5000 that people kept, and some people will just write it off and not even bother with returning them, so they still make money. I got a refund and never got the cards, so I cannot rightfully file a complaint.

  35. I’ll be honest, I’ve purchased several vouchers over the past year on many different deals. A lot of them came from Dealfind and Dealticker, WagJag, Groupon, Living Social, etc. I have never had any issues or problems with Dealfind or Dealticker deals. I found them to be a good buy. Except obviously for the merchant XSV 360. I am so glad I came across this site. I haven’t received my memory card as yet, but am waiting. I’ve already flagged Dealfind about the defective card and all they can tell me is if I receive the product and am not happy, I can call in and receive a refund.

  36. Thanks Warren. DealTicker already promoted almost all scammy deals from XSV 360, and not only from them… so… I wouldn’t believe this info…

    One simple thing: 32GB Class 10 SD memory card with branded chip absolutely can not cost $10 ($29/2 – shipping). Note that they are also making money on this. XSV360 and daily deal websites already lied a lot about these cards, claiming they’ve been manufactured by Toshiba which turned to be a lie, and then providing picture of non-existing “Toshiba Chip”. The most similar one in Toshiba database I could find was 8GB card.

    Regards,
    Trueler

  37. I sent a email to dealticker.com regarding this matter, first my letter then their response (so the question is are they really telling the truth this time?)(were these really phoney,are they still?)

    To dealticker.com

    I cannot believe you folks allow this nonsense to happen. Those same cards were sold by Dealfind. There were several techies that got their order and scanned the cards using state of the art technoligy and found the cards to be fake. They proved the cards were only really 7.7 to 8 GB, so everyone who buys these will not get a true 32 GB. I bought 4 and returned them as many ,many more are doing as they find out the truth.Some are considering going to the papers and news about this.Its over the internet now and spreading fast, I just thought you should know. I still can’t believe you folks don’t do proper product checks before so many get screwed. WC
    Their response…….

    Hello Warren,

    We have been in communication with the principal of XSV 360 to identify any possible card issues prior to running the deal.

    We were assured by the merchant that the cards were certainly real and were not “upgraded” as is common practice these days in China. Having said that, and receiving confirmation from the merchant, we proceeded with the offering.
    In the case that the cards purchased are not as described, we will certainly ensure that a full refund is issued back to your account upon return of counterfeit items back to the merchant.

    Please accept our sincere thank you for bringing the DealFind issue to our attention, it is discouraging to hear that this was the service experience you’ve had with that offering.

    My very best,
    Daniel Abramov

  38. Everyone, please check out dealticker.com – they are offering the 32G XSV memory card as well! Can you believe XSV is trying to make sales with all these deal sites?

  39. FYI

    Just would like to add that I’m also expecting a full refund from Dealfind. Sad part is that dealfind is aware of the issue but only investigating this as a case by case instead of a Problem. If I wasn’t as tech savvy and couldnt find out on my own, dealfind would redeem itself by auto reimbursing the voucher prior to me finding out and cutting their ties with XSV360. Instead they hope customers dont figure it out.

  40. Just a follow up…..I have received my verification back by email that my card will be refunded for my full amt.It will take 5 to 10 business days for it to show. I am happy with that.If anyone wants to go farther with their issues just make a formal complaint with the better business bureau and consumer affairs.Also get in contact with W5 , 20/20, your news paper and radio .Its sad that someone can get as far as these folks, they sold at least 10,000 of these cards.So how many will have no idea what they really bought. WC

  41. Good suggestion to use H2testw to confirm the capacity and functionality of the card. I use that program to verify my known good cards before I use them for important photos; you just don’t want to risk losing them.

    Fake USB sticks and fake flash memory cards have been an issue for years. The new twist is that Dealfind should be held fully liable for promoting such scams.

    Who wants to place bets on when Dealfind goes under? About 30 days from now? :D

  42. Can someone please tell me how I can run a test on the memory card? When I receive mine, I will want to test it to see how much memory it has.

  43. I can confirm the PNY offer is a scam. I have run both cards I ordered and received through numerous tests. They are each 7.7 Gb in size, with write speeds of 3.59 and 3.78 respectively. At a stretch they could be called 8 Gb. Class 4 cards.

    I am contacting my credit card company to dispute this.

  44. Its pretty obviously that Dealfind/XSV360 are scam site, I import a lot of goods from China to sell, mainly small electronics and nick nacks(sp?) anyways, from the looks of the XSV360 site, it looks like it was made to sell Vouchers, if you look at some of the items they sell, like the 7″ tablet for example as i’m seeing those posted on deal sites a lot these days (http://www.xsv360.com/product_p/pc-7in.htm) those are being listed for $399 regular priced and usually the Dealfind deals have them for $100, so a lot of people snag these up, well, if you know anything about these tablets (like I do, cause I’ve sold like 10000 of these in the last 2 years) you would see the specs mainly this “CPU WM8650,High-performance 800MHZ CPU+300MHZ DSP” which looks to be the VIA CPU, and these tablets I actually sell for $80 Canadian, so in essence at the $100 price at dealfind or wherever, you are getting RIPPED OFF. Dealing with a lot of Chinese vendors I know that a lot of them are very shady, and this site looks like it was made by a chinese company to mainly target voucher buyers, these are the same guys that sell on ebay and whatnot. So STAY AWAY from sites that are protecting these companies. I have bought a lot of deal find vouchers but am now boycotting them because of their shady practices.

    I hope this helps people make their decision. SO ONCE AGAIN THE ANDROID TABLETS THAT ARE LISTED ARE NOT WORTH $400, THEY COST ABOUT $30 TO MAKE AND RETAIL FOR $70-$80, come with NO WARRANTY, no support, and have awful hardware. I buy them directly from the factories so I know what I’m talking about, but have stopped selling these because of the quality. Once again. STAY AWAY from these tablets and anything on this site.

  45. I bought 3android tablets through wag jag vouchers. Its been 10 days and order was stuck in processing, they said it would take 10 days to process 7 days to ship. Its been 10 days so i went onto the new site and now it doesnt recognixe me as having an account even though i have email confirmations! I call the cdn toll free number and its just a recording..frustrating- has anyone else recieved theirs and is it any good??

  46. It took about 5-6 emails back and forward with the “customer service” of Dealfind to agree to refund my money. First, they asked “why”, I told them it is a fake product! Then they tried to smooth it out by giving me 5% for future discount. Hell no, I’m not buying anything on Dealfind.com anymore. Every time I send an email to them, they will reply with the same message that they’re researching and get back to me. I had to call American Express to put a dispute on the charge. Finally, Dealfind refunded the money. It took over a week to do just that.

  47. Hi Eric,

    Thanks for sharing results! I believe there are quite a lot of fake memory cards on the “market”… I don’t know how Toshiba and PNY can help. BTW, I was kind of right about 8GB…

    I’m wondering why DealFind was knowingly promoting this scam for entire week?! Why do they care only about profit and not about customers? DealFind will claim now that nothing is more important to them other than customer’s satisfaction and they will offer full refunds. Yes, they can easily do it, because DealFind has not paid anything to XSV 360 yet…

    Thanks,
    Trueler

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